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[*] posted on 22-1-2010 at 12:05 PM


Is a 'show of hands' of members wishing to compete in the Stage 1/2 Rallysprints needed to expedite the processing by CAMS?:puzzled:
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[*] posted on 22-1-2010 at 12:46 PM


Nah we need a junket trip, pictures on the front page of the paper, etc.. I have found the staff at CAMS do the best job they can but... look at the growth of AMSAG and the decline of the ARC and draw your own conclusions which way CAMS management seem to want things to run. Does the S really stand for slow?

The sprinter is ready to go just needs the harnesses installed (kept in a bag in the house not in the car) and the sumpguard installed but its too flamin hot to work outside.

Hmmm maybe I should self edit.
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[*] posted on 22-1-2010 at 01:10 PM


Amsag vid found on Utube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9SsnxJqYRs
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[*] posted on 5-3-2010 at 06:33 PM


Good news! Today I have received all the official guidelines & processes required to run a Level 1 Rallysprint, and as a result I see no barrier to MGCCN being able to run one at Ringwood on Monday 26th April (Anzac long W/end). :singing:

The average speed has to be either below 90 or 70 kph depending on your track licencing. Well Wayne Bell set the track record at the "Red Mist" at 3 minutes 58 seconds. Over a 3.7 km course that works out at just 56 kph average track speed, so we'll be able to use the exact same layout.

Crew members require only a Level 2 S (Speed) licence - just a cheap monetary upgrade from a 2NS, and you've gotta display "P" plates for the first 3 events you run. Roll cages are recommended BUT NOT COMPULSORY - and only production vehicles are eligible (ie no specials/buggies).

So if you want to run 3.7 km on dirt with no tyres on apexes and no stop-starts - put this one into your race calendar. Because this will be the final opportunity for such an event before Ringwood gets developed I've called it the "Last Chance" Rallysprint. You'll get Supp Regs as soon as I get them through.
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[*] posted on 5-3-2010 at 10:37 PM


Good news indeed Bill. Put us down for two entries at least. How many drivers per car will be allowed for the rallysprint. Can I compete and be an official as well. How many officials will be needed taking into account it will be a long weekend?:thumbup:
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[*] posted on 6-3-2010 at 10:55 AM


Mark you cannot both compete and officiate, but thanks for the offer anyway. I have reduced the Safety Crews from 8 to 5 as on the day of the "Red Mist" I thought we had a fair amount of overlap.

The reason I accepted the Monday date was because this event - unlike the last - is aimed primarily at local drivers like yourself, so getting home after the race won't be a problem... as long as you go via Seaham and Millers Forest. I don't yet know what the entry fee will be as CAMS have yet to advise me, but it'll be as cheap as I can make it.
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[*] posted on 11-3-2010 at 08:33 PM


Today I received a Level 1 Rallysprint track licence approval from the NSW Rally Panel, who will now forward a reccommendation to the Australian Rally Commission. As I've been led to believe that this will be the first ever of the new Level 1 rallysprints in Australia I am literally writing the pilot for the Supp Regs, which are just about done.

I can confirm that:
1) Classes will be NAMS Types 1 - 4 over & under 2 litre
2) That buggies are unfortunately excluded by CAMS (I've always wanted to see Cyril in a sedan anyway)
3) That L2S drivers have to display P plates for their 1st 3 level 1 r/sprints. I'm not sure if this is intended to be some sort of qualifying step towards a higher licence.
4) All crew member/s need a 4 point harness
5) A Rollcage is reccomended BUT NOT COMPULSORY
6) Car rego or logbook are NOT required
7) The Rally Panel require "Tabletop" to be bypassed (never mind it's been graded down for inclusion in the humble k/x in 2 weeks where gutsy dirt people race)
8) Numbers of entrants will be fairly restricted and it'll be a case of first in best dressed.

So if you wanna race 3.7km on the dirt with no stops - but with all stops out, reserve Anzac Monday 26th April.

This'll be your first chance to try a level 1 rallysprint, but also the last rallysprint at Rockwood... so I'm calling it "THE FIRST & LAST CHANCE" Rallysprint. I also see no reason why Awaba wouldn't get approved for these type of races, and why WAC wouldn't instigate them. They're the obvious next step up from khanacross.
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[*] posted on 13-3-2010 at 12:15 AM


All good Bill:thumbup:

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[*] posted on 16-3-2010 at 08:04 PM


Fancy finding "Bart" under a flying GT4. No doubt about you Mark!

I've just got the new schedule of fees from CAMS for level 1 rallysprints and can now tell you that our entry fee for 26th April will be $85. Now if that appears a lot to you k/x guys, consider that rallysprints normally cost $120 and up!

Because most navigators are really just excited passengers in these short, local events, it's common practise to split the entry fee between the crew. Remember you'll be able to run with more than one "navigator" as long as they each have a L2S licence - which is just a reasonbly priced upgrade.

I have submitted the Supp Regs to CAMS today, so as soon as they're approved I'll get them to everyone.
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[*] posted on 17-3-2010 at 12:40 PM


Do you have to have a passenger on a L2S licence :puzzled:
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[*] posted on 17-3-2010 at 03:51 PM


That question could be asking two things
1) Is a passenger/navigator compulsory for L2S drivers? NO
2) Must passenger/navigators have a L2S or higher licence? YES
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[*] posted on 22-3-2010 at 01:57 PM


I have been instructed by my c/t to increase the entry fee for this event to $135. I have refused to do so and have walked away from anything to do with current MG dirt event administration or preparation, and resigned from the committee as well.

There are other reasons regarding dirt events as well for the latter, but I won't share them here. I sadly think it very unlikely this Introductory Rallysprint will now go ahead.
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[*] posted on 22-3-2010 at 09:25 PM


We support your decisions Bill and appreciate and thank you for your effort.:thumbup:
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[*] posted on 24-3-2010 at 04:38 PM


dose this mean ringwood will never see the dust again?:puzzled: but yes bill we all support your decisions thanks for all the work you put in up at ringwood they were fast tracks :thumbup:
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[*] posted on 24-3-2010 at 07:00 PM


We were always going to lose the Rockwood tracks once IRH put their surveyors & bulldozers on site. This is expected to be around September, which is why I scheduled all the k/x events for earlier in this year. There are two khanacrosses yet to run there - another State series round on 30th May, and an interclub one on 15th August. Both are NAMS k/x series events.

IRH has said we were welcome to use the land as long as it didn't interfere with their project, so if it's start takes longer than hoped there would be the possibility of more events on the site. However I doubt very much if MG would try and capitalise on this should this situation arise.

The committee executive is publicly saying they consider what's on the calendar is the end. There's no motivation or commitment and the top to plan & prepare events for 2011 - let alone later this year. Some would not be willing to allow the equipment to be "mis-used" grading and rolling, preferring to just mow lawns and clear fell large trees with it.

Like I said - I have a lot more reasons to be walking away than just the issue of increasing Level 1 rallysprint fees.
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[*] posted on 4-4-2010 at 07:11 PM
Reduced Entry cost.


Stage 1 Rallysprint to go ahead on Mon 26th April @ $85 entry according to Gregor MGCCN gregord@optusnet.com.au :thumbup:
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[*] posted on 14-4-2010 at 02:01 PM


In case you havn't looked on the MG site, the Level 1 Rally Sprint has been postphoned untill 13th of June
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[*] posted on 14-4-2010 at 06:05 PM


Yes but in the MGCCN magazine out today (14/4), President John Collins says it's on 26th April as originally scheduled and entry fee will be $135. :dork:
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[*] posted on 16-4-2010 at 08:58 AM


I received an email from John Collins last night confirming that the Rally Sprint set down for th 26th of June has been postponed
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[*] posted on 16-4-2010 at 09:00 AM


My applogies, 26th of April has been postponed until June.
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